Ardour version for iBook G3 900MHZ

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MD
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Hi !

Is there any Ardour version which run under iBook G3 PPC 900MHZ ?

I tried Ardour PPC v.2.8.11 but no luck !

Cheers

paul
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@MD: what didn't work? I don't know of any reason to think that it would just fail outright. Did you follow the instructions toward the bottom of http://ardour.org/first_time_osx_native particularly the part about "It Doesn't Work!" ?
MD
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Hey Paul !

The point is that nothing worked. Ardour crashed immediately !

Here is the log-file:

**********Date/Time: 2010-12-25 21:21:46.078 +0100

OS Version: 10.4.11 (Build 8S165)

Report Version: 4

Command: Ardour2.bin

Path: /Applications/Ardour.app/Contents/MacOS/Ardour2.bin

Parent: WindowServer [57]

Version: 2.8.11/7387 (2.8.11/7387)

PID: 178

Thread: Unknown

Link (dyld) error:

incompatible cpu-subtype

The same happened with mixbus ... "incompatible cpu-subtype"

MD

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@MD: ah, one of those. Hmm, that's a problem. Can you paste the output of the command system_profiler run from a terminal window? But can we also verify that you downloaded the PPC build(s) of Ardour & Mixbus, and not the Intel build(s) ?

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Yes I downloaded the PPC version of both !

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hardware:

Hardware Overview:

Machine Name: iBook
Machine Model: PowerBook4,3
CPU Type: PowerPC 750 (2.3)
Number Of CPUs: 1
CPU Speed: 900 MHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
Memory: 640 MB
Bus Speed: 100 MHz
Boot ROM Version: 4.6.4f1
Serial Number:

Software:

System Software Overview:

System Version: Mac OS X 10.4.11 (8S165)
Kernel Version: Darwin 8.11.0
Boot Volume: MUsic DEsign
Computer Name:
User Name: MUsic DEsign (admin)

ATA:

ATA Bus:

FUJITSU MHS2040AT D:

Capacity: 37.26 GB
Model: FUJITSU MHS2040AT D
Revision: 8105
Serial Number: NL23T3717UTC
Removable Media: No
Detachable Drive: No
BSD Name: disk0
Protocol: ATA
Unit Number: 0
Socket Type: Internal
OS9 Drivers: Yes
S.M.A.R.T. status: Verified
Volumes:
MUsic DEsign:
Capacity: 37.26 GB
Available: 14.03 GB
Writable: Yes
File System: Journaled HFS+
BSD Name: disk0s5
Mount Point: /
Volumes:
disk0s5:
Capacity: 37.26 GB
Available: 14.03 GB
Writable: Yes
File System: Journaled HFS+

SONY CD-RW/DVD-ROM CRX820E:

Model: SONY CD-RW/DVD-ROM CRX820E
Revision: 3.3c
Detachable Drive: No
Protocol: ATAPI
Unit Number: 1
Socket Type: Internal

Audio (Built In):

Built In Sound Card:

CODEC: Texas Instruments TAS3004
Sample Rate: 44.1 KHz
Number of Inputs: 1
Number of Outputs: 2
Devices:
Input:
Type: Internal Microphone
Output:
Type: Headphones
Output:
Type: Internal Speaker

Diagnostics:

Power On Self-Test:

Last Run: 25.12.10 22:30
Result: Passed

Disc Burning:

SONY CD-RW CRX820E:

Firmware Revision: 3.3c
Interconnect: ATAPI
Burn Support: Yes (Apple Shipped/Supported)
Cache: 8192 KB
Reads DVD: Yes
CD-Write: -R, -RW
Burn Underrun Protection CD: Yes
Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw
Media: No

FireWire:

FireWire Bus:

Maximum Speed: Up to 400 Mb/sec

Graphics/Displays:

ATI Mobility Radeon 7500:

Chipset Model: ATY,RageM7
Type: Display
Bus: AGP
Slot: ATI
VRAM (Total): 32 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x4c57
Revision ID: 0x0000
ROM Revision: 113-XXXXX-210
Displays:
Farb-LCD:
Display Type: LCD
Resolution: 1024 x 768
Depth: 32-bit Color
Built-In: Yes
Core Image: Not Supported
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Supported
Display:
Status: No display connected

Memory:

DIMM0/BUILT-IN:

Size: 128 MB
Type: Built-in
Speed: Built-in
Status: OK

DIMM1/J12:

Size: 512 MB
Type: SDRAM
Speed: PC133U-333
Status: OK

Power:

System Power Settings:

AC Power:
System Sleep Timer (Minutes): 0
Disk Sleep Timer (Minutes): 0
Display Sleep Timer (Minutes): 180
Dynamic Power Step: No
Reduce Processor Speed: No
Automatic Restart On Power Loss: Yes
Wake On AC Change: No
Wake On Clamshell Open: Yes
Wake On LAN: No
Wake On Modem Ring: No
Display Sleep Uses Dim: No
Battery Power:
System Sleep Timer (Minutes): 0
Disk Sleep Timer (Minutes): 0
Display Sleep Timer (Minutes): 10
Dynamic Power Step: No
Reduce Processor Speed: No
Automatic Restart On Power Loss: Yes
Wake On AC Change: No
Wake On Clamshell Open: Yes
Wake On Modem Ring: No
Display Sleep Uses Dim: Yes
Reduce Brightness: No

Battery Information:

Battery Installed: Yes
First low level warning: No
Full Charge Capacity (mAh): 5597
Remaining Capacity (mAh): 4952
Amperage (mA): -1333
Voltage (mV): 10827
Cycle Count: 86

AC Charger Information:

AC Charger (Watts): 0
Connected: No
Charging: No

Hardware Configuration:

Clamshell Closed: No
UPS Installed: No

USB:

USB Bus:

Host Controller Location: Built In USB
Host Controller Driver: AppleUSBOHCI
PCI Device ID: 0x0026
PCI Revision ID: 0x0000
PCI Vendor ID: 0x106b
Bus Number: 0x18

USB Bus:

Host Controller Location: Built In USB
Host Controller Driver: AppleUSBOHCI
PCI Device ID: 0x0026
PCI Revision ID: 0x0000
PCI Vendor ID: 0x106b
Bus Number: 0x19

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@MD: this a very old apple G3. i'll have to check our compile flags to see what we are settings that makes it incompatible with the CPU inside your machine. Mixbus is likely to be rather un-useful on this machine because of the constant DSP load it generates, given your rather underpowered system (for this sort of thing). Ardour should be OK though, once we get you a build that can actually be run on your machine.

MD
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<< this a very old apple G3. >>

Indeed it is ;-)
It just should playback a track or be used with a minimum project file (2 or 3 tracks) !

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<< Ardour should be OK though, once we get you a build that can actually be run on your machine. >>

Wow this is more than I expected ! Would be awesome if this would work out !
Thank you very much Paul !

MD

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Is there any chance for a build which will run on my machine ?

Cheers,

MD

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@MD: I've had no time to investigate this, sorry. Keep bugging me about it.

MD
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What I am doing herewith ! :)

MD
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Hey Paul !

I am really not the kind of guy and don´t have the mentality to bug people continuously

so please tell me if I can expect a version for my machine in the near future

or I have to go for alternatives !

I would surely donate a decent sum !

Thanks for your time !

MD

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*G3 bump*

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I'm running an old powerbook g3 and I get similar errors.

The requirements listed OS X 10.4 and Jack.
Maybe you could list minimum cpu/ram requirements so folks like us would know our machines are too old before we buy the software?

MD
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A quick answer would be very much appreciated !

....

MD
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It´s really disappointing getting ignored !

That´s not the way I choosed with MY customers !

I bet now I will get an answer ...

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@MD

You aren't being ignored, what is happening though is there has not been much of a change, and Paul is currently out of town as well to be able to answer. Since it requires having a notebook that old to build and test on, it is a bit difficult to accomplish.

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MD
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I don´t talk about the last 2 days, but the last 3 weeks with no answer on not just my comments !

That it is neccessary to have a notebook that old to build on wasn´t obvious !

So this information is as well appreciated, as disillusioning because

that doesn´t make it just a bit difficult to accomplish, but not realistic I guess !

To get this information would help me to come to a decision !

MD

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The hardware may not be an absolute requirement(It certainly makes things much easier though), but it is a requirement for effectively testing it.

The catch is, that there is obviously some changes to the instruction set that compiling on a G4 as we currently do vs a G3, and it has to be determined exactly what those changes are, and if it is feasible to compile a backwards compatible version(It may not be, but then again it may be).

So at the time being, saying that it is difficult is most likely correct. If could turn out to be unrealistic, but the difficult path is the more likely at the moment I think.

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